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[JeremySchmidt]

Head explosion.

 

Thanks for checking out at midnight everyone, ugh. 

 

http://www.bucksketb...rim-head-coach/

 

 

 

From Sam Amick at USAToday Sports:

Milwaukee Bucks and coach Scott Skiles have agreed to part ways, according to a person familiar with the discussions.  The person spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because the team had yet to announce the move.

 

Shocking, just because it's so sudden. But not shocking at all, because well, we saw this coming earlier today.

 

Jim Boylan has taken over as interim coach.

[justryod3]

i got very excited about this than realized a guy who has been with skiles for the last 2 teams he has coached is now replacing him

nothing will be different for the rest of the season which disappoints me because we have a better team than we are given credit for.

 

i couldnt believe the bucks wanted to keep him though so im glad that didnt happen. problem is ellis walks unless we actually do something this season so it will be back to relying on jennings to do everything...

[Luke Beringer]

I heard that apparently Scott Skiles told the GM that he "hated his team." Not sure if that's true, or a version of that is true. However, i hope that's not the case. I didn't really mind Skiles as our coach, but I knew he wasn't really on the same page as every one else. I guess we just go from here now and see what happens. Go Bucks!

[jtcooky]

I'd rather try to hire a guy instead of Boylan finishing the year, but it should still be a change in some way compared to Skiles. Sooner or later it was going to happen, in this case it was the former.

[Patti]

Isn't it unrealistic to expect a new coach to come in and get these guys to run his offense and defense mid-season? I don't think just letting these guys play one on one is going to yield a good outcome.  It would make sense to just let Boylan finish the year, but I guess it all depends on just who would be interested in taking over as head coach and when.

[justryod3]

So you are glad Skiles left and you want us to keep Ellis? I guess you don't get it yet.....

So you think skiles was a good coach and that ellis hasnt been our only scorer and an extremely well passer? i guess your never going to get it...

[justryod3]

So you are glad Skiles left and you want us to keep Ellis? I guess you don't get it yet.....

all everyone does is blame jennings and ellis for being inconsistent and undersized. sure they are clearly undersized which is why if we were to have to make up for it with our big men which we can with larry and  dalembert. as far as them being inconstant skiles is a defensive coach so thats all he cares about and so all he did was start defensive players which forces jennings and ellis to always be the ones scoring which is going to be inconsistent at times.

 

a good coach would make this team better and make all the players better

 

fact is that bucks front office is shit and will never get us any big name player/all stars so you guys should learn to appreciate jennings and ellis who could both easily be all stars. this is the same team last year that lead the league in scoring when skiles stopped only focusing on defense dont forget that.

[JeremySchmidt]

Don't get it twisted - Jennings and Ellis are the root of all problems Bucks. Not because they are bad players, but because they are being asked to do too much. They aren't the top two guys on a really good team. They are a the top two guys on a pretty average team. And that's what's happening.

 

Hammond announced today that Boylan is the coach for the rest of the season. Skiles was grateful in the release the team sent out for the opportunities he's had.

 

Also coming out that Hammond is working on an extension with Kohl. Everything is happening all at once.

[Ted]

I dont think Hammond and Skiles meshed well...Boylan will finish the year because Herb Kohl will definitely not pay someone to come in to coach. Would be nice to see Kelvin Sampson back in Milwaukee, since the Bucks have indicated that they are sticking with Jennings long term it would make sense to bring in a guy who likes Jennings and who Jennings likes. I'd like to see the Bucks make a run at Nate McMillan personally I think he's a solid coach and someone that players enjoy playing for. Van Gundy does have ties to Wisconsin but I dont think he'd want to take this job. Bucks are probably going to steal an assistant from another team to take over for next year that's why I think Sampson or maybe Sam Cassell? Are likely candidates

[Kevin]

Don't get it twisted - Jennings and Ellis are the root of all problems Bucks. Not because they are bad players, but because they are being asked to do too much. They aren't the top two guys on a really good team. They are a the top two guys on a pretty average team. And that's what's happening.

 

Hammond announced today that Boylan is the coach for the rest of the season. Skiles was grateful in the release the team sent out for the opportunities he's had.

 

Also coming out that Hammond is working on an extension with Kohl. Everything is happening all at once.

 

You hit the nail on the head. Jennings and Ellis are very likable players, and their effort, for the most part, is unquestionable. But neither of them are guys that can lead a team on a nightly basis, and they're also not a very good combination on the court as a whole.

 

Keeping Boylan for the rest of the season makes sense, like Patti alluded to. Getting a new coach mid-season is hard on a team, given that they'll need to learn a whole new system. Furthermore, there's no way Kohl is paying for a new coach right now.

 

Skiles, unfortunately (and I'm guilty of this as well) was kind of the scapegoat for all the Bucks' failures. I did question his rotations quite often, and even now I'm kind of perplexed at the notion of him wanting to be a rebuilding team and develop young players, yet he consistently sat the likes of Henson, Harris etc. Still, he was the best coach we've had in quite a while, so thanks for everything you've done, Skiles, and I hope you have better luck with whatever team you coach in the future.

[Patti]

Just because Jennings & Ellis are playing together now, doesn't mean these two are inseparable.  They both have very different contracts.  It could work to give Jennings a reasonable contract and get a good scoring guard to compliment his style of play.  Bucks have a lot of options, and that's a good thing.  Heck...if the Bucks had that good (taller/larger) scoring guard on the team right now we may not even be having this discussion.  I think Brandon really understands and tries to improve his point guard play.  Last night he was great...can he do that every night?  As long as he doesn't have to play 48 minutes in back to back games!  

[justryod3]

The one thing i want to see jennings do is attack the basket more than trying to take tough jumpers, last night all his shots fell but alot of those shots were very difficult shots. when he attacks he is very crafty with his speed and he seems to get alot more assists. 

 

 I was happy with boylans coaching, towards the end of the game he was playing his rotation by situation whether it be offense or defense which is something i havent really ever seen out of skiles, for example when he switched dunleavy and luc richard back and forth and also he brought in henson to finish the game over ersans awful defense.

 

no minutes for dalembert though   

[Patti]

Agree Justryod3.  Besides the obvious change of starting Ersan and changing LRMBM back to SF, I would say the strategy of switching players more often was all Boylan.  We'll see if he continues to do that or if he finds it actually has a negative impact and leaves the guys on the floor.

[SillyBilly]

Just because Jennings & Ellis are playing together now, doesn't mean these two are inseparable.  They both have very different contracts.  It could work to give Jennings a reasonable contract and get a good scoring guard to compliment his style of play.  Bucks have a lot of options, and that's a good thing.  Heck...if the Bucks had that good (taller/larger) scoring guard on the team right now we may not even be having this discussion.  I think Brandon really understands and tries to improve his point guard play.  Last night he was great...can he do that every night?  As long as he doesn't have to play 48 minutes in back to back games!  

 

I respect your opinion, and I see the appeal because Jennings is a really likable and hardworking player. But I think if the Bucks want to be serious about contending we save our capspace for the start talent(s) we need to contend, even if it means we have a rough year or two. Jennings is outstanding when he's hitting shots but we have a good body of evidence that says we can't expect him to hit shots as often as the league average. Jennings is good for a team that lacks scorers like the Bucks, but the contending team that the Bucks aspire to be with legitimate scoring threats at other positions would be much better served by a true pg that can execute the offense and distribute the ball (as well as hit open shots with a higher efficiency and play defense). I definetely wouldn't characterize Jennings as a guy that makes the players around him better. He just doesn't play the game that way. Unless his contract is reasonable I will be disappointed if he is resigned.

[justryod3]

I respect your opinion, and I see the appeal because Jennings is a really likable and hardworking player. But I think if the Bucks want to be serious about contending we save our capspace for the start talent(s) we need to contend, even if it means we have a rough year or two. Jennings is outstanding when he's hitting shots but we have a good body of evidence that says we can't expect him to hit shots as often as the league average. Jennings is good for a team that lacks scorers like the Bucks, but the contending team that the Bucks aspire to be with legitimate scoring threats at other positions would be much better served by a true pg that can execute the offense and distribute the ball (as well as hit open shots with a higher efficiency and play defense). I definetely wouldn't characterize Jennings as a guy that makes the players around him better. He just doesn't play the game that way. Unless his contract is reasonable I will be disappointed if he is resigned.

i feel like you dont actually watch jennings play...