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#1 Kevin

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:17 PM

Tough game tonight, the second of the four game road trip. The last time we beat the Lakers in Los Angeles, was when we had Earl Boykins at point guard and Jennings was out with a broken foot. 

 

On paper, we have several things in our favor: the Lakers biggest problem is dealing with speedy point guards, so Jennings should have his work cut out for him. Ellis may or may not be so favorable with Kobe being used as the primary defender (and if Jennings is killing Nash, we may see Kobe guard him at some point as well). 

 

The front court is going to be interesting, especially with Pau out. Dwight will be a problem, and I won't be surprised if we see Dalembert guard him in stretches tonight, since Dwight has problems scoring on guys bigger than him. 

 

Apart from being an average road team, I still feel confident we can come away with the win tonight. The Lakers aren't a major threat from three, our biggest weakness in terms of defense, so as long as we don't allow easy penetration to the basket and don't foul, the game could definitely be in our favor.


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:29 PM

Kobe cant stay in front of Monta/Jennings for a whole game, Kobe still thinks he's an elite defender but he definitely is not and whether Monta/Jennings is having a good scoring night or not I think it's important that Monta/Jennings works hard and tires out Kobe because if Kobe is winded and doesnt have the energy to score on offense then he's going to have to take more contested outside shots wit LRMAM on him and the more attempts Kobe takes the worse the Lakers often do. Whichever guard is being guarded by Nash is going to torch him and hopefully Howard gets in some foul trouble...If these things happen (I think they are all very feasible) then I think the Bucks should win this one. Bucks depth will certainly help against the Lakers anemic bench.



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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:34 PM

I mainly said that in reference to D'Antoni's latest plan to put Kobe on every team's best perimeter player and in turn sacrificing some offense from him. He did a decent job on Kyrie the other night, though I feel that was pretty overblown since the Lakers offensively just killed the Cavaliers. 


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:38 PM

Not a good 1st half



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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:24 PM

Monta is all over the place 2nite and not in a good way



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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:42 PM

Brandon took it too personal 2nite and tried to do too much, reverted back to poor shot selection and forcing the issue alot trying to get the Bucks momentum and it just wasnt happening. Aside from Beno and some decent play from Dalembert I dont think there is much positive to take away from this one



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Posted 16 January 2013 - 12:58 AM

Brandon took it too personal 2nite and tried to do too much, reverted back to poor shot selection and forcing the issue alot trying to get the Bucks momentum and it just wasnt happening. Aside from Beno and some decent play from Dalembert I dont think there is much positive to take away from this one

 i dont like udoh as our backup center or even henson they are both power forwards and it screwed us over especially for how well dalembert was playing. larry did better stepping up on pick and rolls but he continues to get dominated 1 on 1, the guy can stop all 4 players in the paint except his own man. kobe played played really good perimeter defense on jennings he forced a few to many shots but he also drove alot and scored or set guys up but most of the time they dropped the ball or didnt finish so it was more of a really bad shooting night as a team which is why he did what he did.



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Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:13 AM

Missed free throws, turn overs, Larry foul trouble early.... just too many mistakes to overcome against the Lakers.

35% fg 25% 3pt 59% ft Not going to get it done that way. At least they hung in the game until the 4th qtr so that

the game was watchable!

On to the Suns and an opportunity to win a game there for the first time in years. Get er dun!

Go Bucks!

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:17 AM

Kobe cant stay in front of Monta/Jennings for a whole game, Kobe still thinks he's an elite defender but he definitely is not and whether Monta/Jennings is having a good scoring night or not I think it's important that Monta/Jennings works hard and tires out Kobe because if Kobe is winded and doesnt have the energy to score on offense then he's going to have to take more contested outside shots wit LRMAM on him and the more attempts Kobe takes the worse the Lakers often do. Whichever guard is being guarded by Nash is going to torch him and hopefully Howard gets in some foul trouble...If these things happen (I think they are all very feasible) then I think the Bucks should win this one. Bucks depth will certainly help against the Lakers anemic bench.

 

lol, Ted you need to start predicting catastrophic failure for the bucks because your optimism seems to keep blowing up in our faces.

 

Kobe stayed in front of Jennings pretty well all game long, but strangely (well not to me) Udrih was much more effective against him in both scoring and getting assists.

 

Wow Kobe is still good! and Howard looks healthier. Nash didn't even do much last night, but the way he patiently probes the defense for the best opportunity is really impressive and I think these guys will put it together eventually. It will be interesting to see if the Lakers can squeeze into the playoffs.



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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:34 PM

I wasnt being starry eyed and optimistic I was just saying what their gameplan should have been. Execution last night was terrible.

 

I have no idea why Monta and Dunleavy spent majority of time guarding Bryant, when LRMAM was on Kobe, Kobe was struggling to score he bricked a few shots and airmailed one, speaking of LRMAM there is no excuse for Mbah a Moute offensively last night, he should have had a field day on offense with 6'1" 38 year old Steve Nash guarding him, that was downright embarrassing. I know that his midrange/3 point game is weak, but he's a capable post scorer and if you are being guarded by a guy who's 7 inches shorter and 60 pounds lighter you need to take advantage of that. If Monta makes his free throws, Mbah a Moute demands the ball in the post I think the Bucks could have definitely won that game, they most likely wont have the luxury of Gasol being out when they play LA at home later on so they missed their shot this season.



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Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:53 PM

lol, Ted you need to start predicting catastrophic failure for the bucks because your optimism seems to keep blowing up in our faces.

 

Kobe stayed in front of Jennings pretty well all game long, but strangely (well not to me) Udrih was much more effective against him in both scoring and getting assists.

 

Wow Kobe is still good! and Howard looks healthier. Nash didn't even do much last night, but the way he patiently probes the defense for the best opportunity is really impressive and I think these guys will put it together eventually. It will be interesting to see if the Lakers can squeeze into the playoffs.

so you didnt happen to see all the times where jennings drove and kicked to a wide open shooter followed by a brick or the 3 different possesions where he drove and dished it to paint and went right through the hands of the post players. even when jennings drove and missed the layup he drew so much attention that guys like larry had an easy clean up. he un selfishly let ellis do his thing because of kobes good perimeter defense and every other time jennings blew right past him. beno is very talented but its clear that the 2nd unit preforms better all around as a group of 5 and not just jennings or just ellis so to say he was much more effective is just bullshit, they both took advantage of getting by kobe 2nd unit did a better job of finishing when beno got them the ball simple as that.

 

i may be a jennings fan boy but when i comes to watching the guy play you are completely bias with your opinion.



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Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:19 PM

I wasnt being starry eyed and optimistic I was just saying what their gameplan should have been. Execution last night was terrible.
 
I have no idea why Monta and Dunleavy spent majority of time guarding Bryant, when LRMAM was on Kobe, Kobe was struggling to score he bricked a few shots and airmailed one, speaking of LRMAM there is no excuse for Mbah a Moute offensively last night, he should have had a field day on offense with 6'1" 38 year old Steve Nash guarding him, that was downright embarrassing. I know that his midrange/3 point game is weak, but he's a capable post scorer and if you are being guarded by a guy who's 7 inches shorter and 60 pounds lighter you need to take advantage of that. If Monta makes his free throws, Mbah a Moute demands the ball in the post I think the Bucks could have definitely won that game, they most likely wont have the luxury of Gasol being out when they play LA at home later on so they missed their shot this season.
Yeah...I agree. All the other rotations seemed to make some sense dealing with the match ups, but I was surprised that
LRMBM was not stuck to Kobe like glue. Maybe? because he is used to a defensive role (never mind offense) in these
types of games he's just not used to "creating offense" for himself. If he's standing there wide open and someone
throws him the ball, he'll take the shot. Just seemed a funny match against Nash. It obviously worked for the
Lakers to put Kobe on BJ and Nash on LRMBM.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:53 PM

Yeah...I agree. All the other rotations seemed to make some sense dealing with the match ups, but I was surprised that
LRMBM was not stuck to Kobe like glue. Maybe? because he is used to a defensive role (never mind offense) in these
types of games he's just not used to "creating offense" for himself. If he's standing there wide open and someone
throws him the ball, he'll take the shot. Just seemed a funny match against Nash. It obviously worked for the
Lakers to put Kobe on BJ and Nash on LRMBM.

 

Boylan needs to take some blame as far as not making any adjustments against them. Like Ted said, there's absolutely no reason why Mbah a Moute wasn't defending Kobe for the majority of the night. His strides forward offensively don't change the fact that he should be guarding the other team's best player the majority of the time, unless it's a big guy like Dwight. And allowing himself to be shut out of the game despite having Steve Nash on him, of all players, is nothing short of pathetic. My assumption is that he was afraid to drive with Dwight patrolling the lane. 

 

There's no reason whatsoever for Monta or Dunleavy to be guarding Kobe, and Boylan is a smart enough guy to know that. And with Pau out, we had every reason/opportunity to put Mbah a Moute on Kobe. Alas, it was poor execution on all fronts and we paid for it.

 

Keep in mind though, we did manage to stay in this game through three quarters despite all that. Shots just didn't fall when the Lakers picked up their defensive intensity. And I'm not totally convinced that Pau makes them a better team, especially if he's forced to play at PF with Dwight in the lineup.


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