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#1 Ted

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:21 AM

So the All Star Starters have been announced already..Rondo, Wade, Lebron, Carmelo, and KG are the ECF starters

 

 

West and East coaches, as always, are being asked to vote for seven players in their respective conferences -- albeit none of their own -- and observe the following guidelines:

 

• Each ballot must include two guards, three frontcourt players and two wild cards.

 

• Players must be ranked in order of preference in all three categories.

 

• If a coach feels that a player can play more than one position, he is encouraged to vote for that player at the position "most advantageous for the All-Star team," without regard to where the player is listed on the All-Star ballot or how he's listed in box scores.

 

 

Bucks best shot at an All Star is Brandon Jennings (Shoutout to Larry Sanders though who has probably been Bucks Most Valuable Player in 1st half of season)

 

 

Usually winning teams get more All Star love and that is the Bucks best shot at Jennings making the team because Irving and Holiday have been playing for losing teams. As far as Guards go I took a player comparison link that is posted below of his most likely competition Paul George could find himself listed voted in as a frontcourt player somehow but his position is currently listed as a Guard.

 

 

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:03 AM

Voting ends this Wednesday so there are a few games still for a player to differentiate himself from the pack but this is how I think it's all going to go down.

 

Guards

 

Irving: Best numbers for a Point Guard 23 PPG 5.6 APG 3.6 RPG disgustingly high FG percentages of 46% from the floor and 41% from 3. His team is terrible but he's already a Star player and could potentially become a Superstar if he gets a bit of help in Cleveland someday. Downside is that he's been injury prone so coaches might take that into account with the team's record.

 

George: He's been an absolute Stud defensively. And not too shabby offensively and he's been the best player on the 3rd best team in the East and Indy deserves an All Star. I'll be shocked if he isnt.

 

Frontcourt

 

Chandler: 2nd best player on the 2nd best team in the East..shoulda been the starter at the 5 and if he woulda there would be alot less controversy on what will end up happening when the reserves are announced officially.

 

Noah: Anchoring the Bulls defense and puttin up numbers of 12 points 11 boards 4 assists and 2 Blocks. Very high assist numbers for a Center, I think it's too hard to not have him on this team and the Chi needs a guy on the All Star squad. Could be Deng or Boozer but Noah I think deserves it over the other guys.

 

Smith: Josh Smith is due, he got absolutely snubbed last year and even though the Hawks have been slipping a little bit as of late they are still the 6th best team record-wise in the East and he's stat sheet stuffing with 16 points 8 boards just under 4 Asts 1.3 Steals and 2.3 Blocks per game. It's either going to be him or Horford and Im giving Smith the Edge since it's his turn.

 

 

Wild Card

 

Brook Lopez: Team high 19 PPG 7 RPG 2 Blocks and a whopping 25.6 PER and the team with the current 4th best record in the East deserves an All Star

 

Paul Pierce: Having yet another solid season in Boston, despite father time trying to slow him down. Celtics are on a roll right now climbing up the Standings and teams/coaches have alot of respect for Boston and alot of respect for Paul Pierce and that is why I think he makes this team. Boston doesnt deserve 3 guys but it's the fans fault not Paul Pierce's.

 

 

Snubs: Jennings, Deron Williams, Al Horford, Jrue Holiday, Joe Johnson, Deng and Boozer

 

Deron Williams: has said in the last week or so "I dont deserve to be an All Star" so if he is that's an absolute joke In my opinion, and shame on the coaches for giving him love if he does get the nod.

 

Horford: is having a good year but I just think Smith is having a better one and that it's his turn, could go either way tho and I wouldnt be surprised or bothered.

 

Jrue Holiday: has the numbers to be an All Star but I dont think you can have 2 guards on losing teams be the All Star Backcourt and Irving is superior so I think he'll get the nod Jrue, but he'll have his shot down the line.

 

Joe Johnson: he's been solid and the Nets are a team to reckon with in the East again so he'll get votes but not enough to make the team.

 

Deng: got some love last year I dont think Chicago deserves two guys on the squad.

 

Boozer: has been destroying opposing defenses lately but all year opposing offenses have been destroying him.

 

Last but not least BJ...I think his best shot would be the argument of him being on a winning team. But his numbers dont stand out enough and opposing coaches have he and Ellis muddled together in their gameplans so often that I dont think the coaches will show Jennings enough love to make the squad. Which is too bad because with Rose out and Irving still a year or so removed from Superstar status this year was probly his best shot. I hope im wrong though and I bet somewhere down the line in his career he'll finally get the nod. This year I give him 40% shot at making the team

 

Fans screwed it up voting for KG at Center...Damn you Boston!! :(

 

 

 

Let me know what y'all think, if you disagree that's fine let me know, Id also like to hear other peoples thoughts on what they think the potential Eastern Conference All Stars could end up being.



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Posted 19 January 2013 - 12:22 PM

Jennings and Ellis (sadly) are the only two players that probably have a legitimate shot at making the All Star team. That being said though, the league is starting to take notice of Larry Sanders. The Bucks having a winning record, combined with his play and the numbers... it's not too likely, but there's still a chance he could make the team.


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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:55 PM

Jennings and Ellis (sadly) are the only two players that probably have a legitimate shot at making the All Star team. That being said though, the league is starting to take notice of Larry Sanders. The Bucks having a winning record, combined with his play and the numbers... it's not too likely, but there's still a chance he could make the team.

 

 

For sure, coaches are definitely gameplanning for Larry Sanders nowadays if it werent such a strong year for Frontcourt players in the East I think Larry would have a shot



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Posted 19 January 2013 - 04:49 PM

Agree...has a lot to do with who else is in contention. Sanders, Jennings & Ellis have all played well enough to make
the team as compared to other players that have been selected in the past. Your analysis, Ted, is REALLY good. Sadly, I don't disagree with anything that you said about the long odds of Buck player making All Star team.

All Star teams reflect the teams in the NBA and are getting to be 3 Boston, 3 Heat, throw in NY, NJ (now NY)Chicago. If
you're not a member of the club, you are not going to get invited. The way League has promoted Anthony
Davis (Olympics)without having to play one NBA game, I totally expect he'll be an "ALL STAR".

I just hope that if Brandon is not chosen again, that he'll find some new place to go in his head that doesn't have a
negative effect on his game. He's better than that.

I want to see Arne Duncan & Justin Bieber play. Heck, I want to see Obama play! How about Matthew Bomer and Snoop Dog...they were really good at the NFL Pro Bowl stars football game?

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:14 PM

Agree...has a lot to do with who else is in contention. Sanders, Jennings & Ellis have all played well enough to make
the team as compared to other players that have been selected in the past. Your analysis, Ted, is REALLY good. Sadly, I don't disagree with anything that you said about the long odds of Buck player making All Star team.

All Star teams reflect the teams in the NBA and are getting to be 3 Boston, 3 Heat, throw in NY, NJ (now NY)Chicago. If
you're not a member of the club, you are not going to get invited. The way League has promoted Anthony
Davis (Olympics)without having to play one NBA game, I totally expect he'll be an "ALL STAR".

I just hope that if Brandon is not chosen again, that he'll find some new place to go in his head that doesn't have a
negative effect on his game. He's better than that.


I want to see Arne Duncan & Justin Bieber play. Heck, I want to see Obama play! How about Matthew Bomer and Snoop Dog...they were really good at the NFL Pro Bowl stars football game?

 

 

Agreed, last year I think missing out on the All Star team hit him really hard. He had that stretch where he was just moping and disinterested, might have had a bit to do with other things going on with the team (Captain Jack stuff) but Brandon was definitely shook up. Monta and Brandon are similar in alot of ways but one advantage Monta has over Jennings is that Monta does not care about what other people think of him, he just plays ball. Brandon reads into media hype and things like that too much. Hopefully if he misses the All Star squad it gives him more fuel to try and prove to people he is an elite player when he's got the energy and swagger goin on he's tough for opposing teams to handle.



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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:25 PM

in my opinion he now has a very good chance of getting a spot, i might be wrong but holiday was the guy that was said to be getting the spot but jennings out played him in the head to head battle which has to be a big deal.



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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:52 PM

I would absolutely shocked if the Bucks get an All-Star selection. I hope and pray they do, but I just feel like, because it's the Bucks, they won't get a selection. What about Dunleavy in the 3PT-contest, Sanders in the Slam-Dunk Challenge or Jennings/Ellis in the Skills Challenge. I'd like to see the Bucks represented somehow on All-Star weekend.



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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:53 PM

The head to head win 2nite certainly doesn't hurt Jennings chances but I dont think it helps him all that much either he's still on the outside looking in. Bucks as a team have done very well against the East in the 1st half of the season so that bodes well for him but statistically he's not good enough so I doubt he makes it. Itd be cool if he did though since Bucks are going to be tied with the Kings (Sonics) for longest All Star drought since either Curry and (or) Lee will be voted in for the West for Golden State who haven't had one since 97



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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:47 AM

Everybody can see that Jennings has great talent. 

Everybody has witnessed him play some stellar games. 

 

But the truth is that he is far from consistent and still has some major flaws in his style of play. This is evident in his statistical production which ranks him as an average or slightly below average pg in most categories. 

 

He is still young and it would probably be best for his career if he doesn't make the All-Star game. Im not sure if he will improve but he has the talent and youth to improve tremendously and be a real all-star. I just wouldn't hold my breath. 



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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:39 PM

http://bleacherrepor...edition/page/30

 

January 22, 2013  Jennings at #10

 

 

He's not elite, but will you at least give him average?   :)



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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:54 PM

http://bleacherrepor...edition/page/30

 

January 22, 2013  Jennings at #10

 

 

He's not elite, but will you at least give him average?   :)

 

I could care less about bleacher report.

Statistics matter, they don't tell the whole story but they do matter A LOT, and ignoring them when ranking players is just stupid.

check out the stats among nba pgs for yourself

http://insider.espn....s/_/position/pg

Look at the TS% and PER as well as all of the other categories and try telling me he is a top ten pg.

 

He's clearly not an all star and I don't understand why it is even being discussed. O yea because its the NBA and Yao Ming was an annual all-star. Its a popularity contest.

 

So far in his career Brandon has been a starter since day 1 but hasn't improved his game or adjusted his style all that much since his rookie year. The lack of progress is the only explanation for the Bucks not extending him before the October deadline. He's definitely not getting any cheaper as time goes on.

 

Brandon needs to be denied recognition so that he is motivated to make changes to his approach and style of play that will allow him to be a real all-star. All of this popularity so early in his career (the 55 point game) has stunted his growth as a player.



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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:50 PM

I could care less about bleacher report.

Statistics matter, they don't tell the whole story but they do matter A LOT, and ignoring them when ranking players is just stupid.

check out the stats among nba pgs for yourself

http://insider.espn....s/_/position/pg

Look at the TS% and PER as well as all of the other categories and try telling me he is a top ten pg.

 

He's clearly not an all star and I don't understand why it is even being discussed. O yea because its the NBA and Yao Ming was an annual all-star. Its a popularity contest.

 

So far in his career Brandon has been a starter since day 1 but hasn't improved his game or adjusted his style all that much since his rookie year. The lack of progress is the only explanation for the Bucks not extending him before the October deadline. He's definitely not getting any cheaper as time goes on.

 

Brandon needs to be denied recognition so that he is motivated to make changes to his approach and style of play that will allow him to be a real all-star. All of this popularity so early in his career (the 55 point game) has stunted his growth as a player.

you continue to say the same shit every week mean while jennings is playing like an all around scoring and passing pg. since the coaching change he has been extremely consistent, he is mixing it up shooting and driving he is finding the open man, setting someone up for an easy lay in, he is getting to line and even finishing for the 3 point play. i have seen him more than once pass up the open 3 to get a better shot or get someone else a better shot

 

so yea i wanted him to be an all star but no he didnt deserve it considering the way he started the season. but i know he is going to continue playing like this and i guarantee he will be an all star next year. go ahead and live by stats that doesnt do you any good considering there was a coaching change that made this team a far more succesful team. jennings has said in multiple interviews that since boylan taking over he has stopped thinking and just played basketball and look whats happening. so just stop critsizing the only thing good going for the bucks.  you clearly arent a bucks fan



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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:29 AM

I could care less about bleacher report.

Statistics matter, they don't tell the whole story but they do matter A LOT, and ignoring them when ranking players is just stupid.

check out the stats among nba pgs for yourself

http://insider.espn....s/_/position/pg

Look at the TS% and PER as well as all of the other categories and try telling me he is a top ten pg.

 

He's clearly not an all star and I don't understand why it is even being discussed. O yea because its the NBA and Yao Ming was an annual all-star. Its a popularity contest.

 

So far in his career Brandon has been a starter since day 1 but hasn't improved his game or adjusted his style all that much since his rookie year. The lack of progress is the only explanation for the Bucks not extending him before the October deadline. He's definitely not getting any cheaper as time goes on.

 

Brandon needs to be denied recognition so that he is motivated to make changes to his approach and style of play that will allow him to be a real all-star. All of this popularity so early in his career (the 55 point game) has stunted his growth as a player.

 

Fan voting will never affect a Milwaukee Bucks player so it's not really a popularity contest. Coaches gave the love to Holiday but I dont think Holiday deserved it. I dont think Jennings did either, I thought it was criminal that the Nets didnt get a single All Star and that Brook Lopez got snubbed. Holiday leads the league in turnovers and plays on a team that is 8 games below 500 and is also 7-19 since December 1st. I dont think that is worthy of being an All Star.



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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:58 AM

I could care less about bleacher report.

Statistics matter, they don't tell the whole story but they do matter A LOT, and ignoring them when ranking players is just stupid.

check out the stats among nba pgs for yourself

http://insider.espn....s/_/position/pg

Look at the TS% and PER as well as all of the other categories and try telling me he is a top ten pg.

 

I did not say I thought he was top 10...I was questioning  your assertion that Jennings is below average.  Actually, the statistics you asked me to look at in your link above clearly prove that Jennings is above average.  He is 16th out of 75.  Now if THAT is not considered to be average, then I guess I just don't know what is!



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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:58 AM

I could care less about bleacher report.

Statistics matter, they don't tell the whole story but they do matter A LOT, and ignoring them when ranking players is just stupid.

check out the stats among nba pgs for yourself

http://insider.espn....s/_/position/pg

Look at the TS% and PER as well as all of the other categories and try telling me he is a top ten pg.

 

I did not say I thought he was top 10...I was questioning  your assertion that Jennings is below average.  Actually, the statistics you asked me to look at in your link above clearly prove that Jennings is above average.  He is 16th out of 75.  Now if THAT is not considered to be average, then I guess I just don't know what is!

well there are 30 starting pgs so among starters I would say he is average with the potential to be in the top 5. He's a young guy that could quickly become really good if he can consistently manage the game a little better in his role as pg. When that happens I'll be the first one to say that he's an all-star.

 

16th in PER

44th in TS%

56th in Assist Ratio



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Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:16 AM

you continue to say the same shit every week mean while jennings is playing like an all around scoring and passing pg. since the coaching change he has been extremely consistent, he is mixing it up shooting and driving he is finding the open man, setting someone up for an easy lay in, he is getting to line and even finishing for the 3 point play. i have seen him more than once pass up the open 3 to get a better shot or get someone else a better shot

 

so yea i wanted him to be an all star but no he didnt deserve it considering the way he started the season. but i know he is going to continue playing like this and i guarantee he will be an all star next year. go ahead and live by stats that doesnt do you any good considering there was a coaching change that made this team a far more succesful team. jennings has said in multiple interviews that since boylan taking over he has stopped thinking and just played basketball and look whats happening. so just stop critsizing the only thing good going for the bucks.  you clearly arent a bucks fan

 

Chill dude don't take it so personally. Im just saying based on his play throughout the season he's not an all-star. Maybe he and the teams improved play as of late will continue for the rest of the year, but the all-star selection is based on more than the past week. If Jennings becomes an all star pg that can consistently play efficiently and help the offense execute even when he's not shooting well then I will be nothing but happy. Its not far-fetched for that to happen because the guy is majorly talented.

 

But at the same time his body of work so far in his career has not been all-star-caliber. And from where I sit there are some simple things (for a player of his talent) he could do to become much more consistent and much better as a facilitator. For him to get all-star recognition right now might detract some from what motivates this 23 year old, so to me it is good if he gets snubbed in favor of Holiday. Make him prove everyone wrong.



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Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:25 AM

Fan voting will never affect a Milwaukee Bucks player so it's not really a popularity contest. Coaches gave the love to Holiday but I dont think Holiday deserved it. I dont think Jennings did either, I thought it was criminal that the Nets didnt get a single All Star and that Brook Lopez got snubbed. Holiday leads the league in turnovers and plays on a team that is 8 games below 500 and is also 7-19 since December 1st. I dont think that is worthy of being an All Star.

 

Brandon Jennings is a popular player, I live in California and he certainly has fans out here. He's the only buck the average person knows by name and fans in general would vote for him. Just because the Bucks don't have a large following doesn't mean one of their players can't be popular in general. And yea I don't know about Holiday above Jennings either but hopefully it just serves as motivation.



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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:05 PM

Fan voting will never affect a Milwaukee Bucks player so it's not really a popularity contest. Coaches gave the love to Holiday but I dont think Holiday deserved it. I dont think Jennings did either, I thought it was criminal that the Nets didnt get a single All Star and that Brook Lopez got snubbed. Holiday leads the league in turnovers and plays on a team that is 8 games below 500 and is also 7-19 since December 1st. I dont think that is worthy of being an All Star.

Absolutely agreed. It's unfortunate that we don't have an All Star, but Brook Lopez not getting a spot is the biggest snub besides Stephen Curry this year. 

 

Personally, I felt that last year Jennings got snubbed. He played fantastic basketball the first half of the season. This year, I have no problem with him being passed over, because even though Holiday is leading in a bad category (turnovers), he's having a fantastic season overall, albeit on a bad team. 

 

And as for Jennings place in the league among starting point guards and otherwise... he's a flawed player. There's no doubt about that. His offense is still shaky; he tends to force bad shots, and too often he misses open shots, particularly floaters in the lane. And his vision, while improved, still needs to get better. He doesn't see the court as well as some of the better point guards in the league. Also, I'd really like to see him improve with his right (off) hand, whether it be in dribbling situations or finishing at the rim, when teams anticipate and stop him from being able to finish smoothly with his left. 

 

Still, he's capable of being a tremendous impact player, whether it be with a three, a well aimed pass, or getting a key steal. The bigger issue is seeing if we can get all that from him on a more consistent basis.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:04 PM

This "trend" of Brandon (and Ellis) of going hot & cold is enough to make any Bucks fan crazy. Everyone
has bad nights, it's just a part of the game when you play 3-4 games a week and travel. But Brandon goes into multiple game slumps and that's the nightmare we are all holding our breath waiting for.

Our leading scorers tossed up long jumpers with the game on the line. Cav re-bounders in the paint just
FEAST off those misses. No offensive boards...no put backs. Shaun Livingston gave us fits last night!
Ersan seems to be getting out of his slump, but he's our "power" forward. He had 2 offensive boards all
night and that's his claim to fame. How many times can you get away with kicking it out to Ersan for
three in the same game? As soon as our run & gun offense is shut down, we are screwed.

Would Dalembert help last night? Daniels on Livingston? Those quick rotations from Boylan vanished last
night and it sure felt like watching another Skiles game plan. Announcer said Boylan told the guys to get to the rim and stop tossing up 20' jumpers. Well they didn't listen.

Phew! Go Bucks!




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