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[usachamp9]

JJ Redick to the bucks. Orlando wants (an) expiring contract(s) and a 1st round draft pick.

 

Reports: Beno Udrih, Sam Dalembert, and 1st round draft pick. Heres the report.

 

Do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[justryod3]

this would be an awful trade for someone who will be out of milwaukee in the off season. not to mention he wouldnt really fit with our rotation he would hurt it more than help it ,along with the player and pick we would be losing i find it hard to believe that hammond would be even considering this

 

#inhammondwetrust

[Kevin]

The Bucks are apparently looking for him to re-sign before going forward with this deal, so that protects us at least in that way. Though I fail to see how he'd hurt our team or hurt to be in the rotation. He's an unselfish guy who likes to move the ball around, and he'd easily be the best or second best shooter on the team along with Dunleavy. Not to mention we'd finally have a two guard who can actually play defense. 

[justryod3]

The Bucks are apparently looking for him to re-sign before going forward with this deal, so that protects us at least in that way. Though I fail to see how he'd hurt our team or hurt to be in the rotation. He's an unselfish guy who likes to move the ball around, and he'd easily be the best or second best shooter on the team along with Dunleavy. Not to mention we'd finally have a two guard who can actually play defense. 

everybody bitches about montas defense but it is far from bad, the only time he gets scored on alot is when its tall sg's like harden or kobe, but jj is not going to do any better he isnt very much taller and he far from athletic and fast as monta so i dont get why everyone has to find things to complain about. as far as the rotation goes how do you possibly see it working? we most likely would be giving up dalembert which takes away our backup center which has been very key as of late. and for sg one starts one sits and i dont see reddick taking mota job as the starter so how would this be a good trade. we would have beno reddick and dunleavy coming off the bench i dont think i need to explain whats wrong with that

[Patti]

justryod3....keep in mind that Ellis has an option to book at the end of this season, so we may end up without Ellis and without JJ Redick.  Hammond is certainly taking that into account with this trade discussion.

[justryod3]

justryod3....keep in mind that Ellis has an option to book at the end of this season, so we may end up without Ellis and without JJ Redick.  Hammond is certainly taking that into account with this trade discussion.

you are completely right if reddick were to get a longer deal with us than it would make sense i still wouldnt like it but it would make sense. the fact is that he already has said that he wouldnt re sign with the bucks therefore why trade so we can add another expiring contract and lose a draft pick.

[BucsDucs99]

If all it takes is Dalembert and a 1st (likely to be outside the lottery anyway), I'd be all over this trade.

 

What would be icing on the cake would be if we could swing a trade with Philly to get Evan Turner while unloading Monta Ellis (apparently Turner is being shopped now).

 

If we could come away from the deadline with something like:

PG: Jennings, Udrih

SG: Turner, Redick

SF: Dunleavy, Tobias, LRMAM

PF: Ilyasova, Henson, LRMAM

C: Sanders, Udoh

 

I think I'd cry tears of joy.

[usachamp9]

Haha ^ id say you could cry on my shoulder. but id be crying too

[Kevin]

everybody bitches about montas defense but it is far from bad, the only time he gets scored on alot is when its tall sg's like harden or kobe, but jj is not going to do any better he isnt very much taller and he far from athletic and fast as monta so i dont get why everyone has to find things to complain about. as far as the rotation goes how do you possibly see it working? we most likely would be giving up dalembert which takes away our backup center which has been very key as of late. and for sg one starts one sits and i dont see reddick taking mota job as the starter so how would this be a good trade. we would have beno reddick and dunleavy coming off the bench i dont think i need to explain whats wrong with that

 

Ellis tries defensively, but if you're going to try and sit here and tell me that he's better defensively because he's athletic and fast, then you really need to remove your head all the way from your ass. He tries, but that doesn't make him good defensively. Despite his speed, he gets blown by A LOT, because all the speed in the world doesn't mean a damn thing if you're constantly gambling for steals and leaving yourself in position to get blown by for easy baskets. Redick has improved tremendously on the defensive end since he came into the league, and where he might not be as quick or athletic, he's certainly much smarter.

 

As far as rotation, Dalembert has BARELY been playing anyways, so what's the difference? As soon as Sanders comes back, he's going right back on the bench and his minutes will go back down. He's slow, and a very poor help defender, and the Bucks defense evaporates when he spends extended minutes on the floor. 

 

And yeah, Ellis would likely keep starting. This is the one potential downfall of it. But Ellis, more likely than not, isn't in Milwaukee next season, or possibly this season if the Bucks keep trying to move him. But if Redick is coming off the bench until then, he would make our second unit even better because he'd be one of the few players who can actually spread the floor with his shot, as well as move the ball effectively and play defense. No longer would we be stuck with having to put in guys like Marquis Daniels, ie. one dimensional players who screw the offense while they're on the court, because Redick can do both effectively.

 

The only reason this trade shouldn't go through is if we HAVE to give up the draft pick, but if we're a playoff team, chances are the draft pick isn't going to amount to much anyways, particularly in such a weak draft. 

 

 

 

If all it takes is Dalembert and a 1st (likely to be outside the lottery anyway), I'd be all over this trade.

 

What would be icing on the cake would be if we could swing a trade with Philly to get Evan Turner while unloading Monta Ellis (apparently Turner is being shopped now).

 

If we could come away from the deadline with something like:

PG: Jennings, Udrih

SG: Turner, Redick

SF: Dunleavy, Tobias, LRMAM

PF: Ilyasova, Henson, LRMAM

C: Sanders, Udoh

 

I think I'd cry tears of joy.

 

I'd be okay with this. Turner has improved quite a bit in the last two years. Though he's not a very good three point shooter, which is something we really need from our two guards. 

[justryod3]

Ellis tries defensively, but if you're going to try and sit here and tell me that he's better defensively because he's athletic and fast, then you really need to remove your head all the way from your ass. He tries, but that doesn't make him good defensively. Despite his speed, he gets blown by A LOT, because all the speed in the world doesn't mean a damn thing if you're constantly gambling for steals and leaving yourself in position to get blown by for easy baskets. Redick has improved tremendously on the defensive end since he came into the league, and where he might not be as quick or athletic, he's certainly much smarter.

 

As far as rotation, Dalembert has BARELY been playing anyways, so what's the difference? As soon as Sanders comes back, he's going right back on the bench and his minutes will go back down. He's slow, and a very poor help defender, and the Bucks defense evaporates when he spends extended minutes on the floor. 

 

And yeah, Ellis would likely keep starting. This is the one potential downfall of it. But Ellis, more likely than not, isn't in Milwaukee next season, or possibly this season if the Bucks keep trying to move him. But if Redick is coming off the bench until then, he would make our second unit even better because he'd be one of the few players who can actually spread the floor with his shot, as well as move the ball effectively and play defense. No longer would we be stuck with having to put in guys like Marquis Daniels, ie. one dimensional players who screw the offense while they're on the court, because Redick can do both effectively.

 

The only reason this trade shouldn't go through is if we HAVE to give up the draft pick, but if we're a playoff team, chances are the draft pick isn't going to amount to much anyways, particularly in such a weak draft. 

 

 

 

 

I'd be okay with this. Turner has improved quite a bit in the last two years. Though he's not a very good three point shooter, which is something we really need from our two guards. 

im not going to bother replying to this because you are completely wrong about his and reddicks defense, dalembert has been playing backup center as of the last week udoh cannot play center so it does matter

 

and like i said reddick doesnt want to be in milwaukee this trade will not happen so clean up the load you just busted and take a seat

[jtcooky]

I posted about this on my facebook wall, and one of my friends commented saying "If the bucks want a shooter they should have kept Jimmer"

 

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/sigh

[SillyBilly]

Alright justryod3, could you perhaps let us all know which news outlet reported that Reddick is unwilling to re-sign with Milwaukee as you have claimed? Or maybe JJ called you personally to let you know? I think its most likely though that your claim is just a fabrication and you hold a strong bias toward Monta Ellis, who by all objective measures is having quite an awful year. Please tell us more of your fairy tales.

[jtcooky]

Alright justryod3, could you perhaps let us all know which news outlet reported that Reddick is unwilling to re-sign with Milwaukee as you have claimed? Or maybe JJ called you personally to let you know? I think its most likely though that your claim is just a fabrication and you hold a strong bias toward Monta Ellis, who by all objective measures is having quite an awful year. Please tell us more of your fairy tales.

+1

[Kevin]

Alright justryod3, could you perhaps let us all know which news outlet reported that Reddick is unwilling to re-sign with Milwaukee as you have claimed? Or maybe JJ called you personally to let you know? I think its most likely though that your claim is just a fabrication and you hold a strong bias toward Monta Ellis, who by all objective measures is having quite an awful year. Please tell us more of your fairy tales.

 

The only thing Redick has said that I've seen so far is that he PREFERS to stay in Orlando. But given what he's going to be worth on the market this offseason, there's next to no chance the Magic even try to re-sign him given the state of their team. There's no indication that he wouldn't sign an extension with Milwaukee yet. The only reason I can think of that'll make him object to being in Milwaukee is that Indiana, Chicago and New York are interested in him.

[justryod3]

Alright justryod3, could you perhaps let us all know which news outlet reported that Reddick is unwilling to re-sign with Milwaukee as you have claimed? Or maybe JJ called you personally to let you know? I think its most likely though that your claim is just a fabrication and you hold a strong bias toward Monta Ellis, who by all objective measures is having quite an awful year. Please tell us more of your fairy tales.

heres how i know...nobody wants to play in milwaukee, i dont know if thats news to you where you need an article on it?

 

plus his and his family "love" orlando and he plans to re sign there despite them being horrible, im sure him and his family would love to trade that for 0 degree weather

[SillyBilly]

heres how i know...nobody wants to play in milwaukee, i dont know if thats news to you where you need an article on it?

 

plus his and his family "love" orlando and he plans to re sign there despite them being horrible, im sure him and his family would love to trade that for 0 degree weather

 

Not true. NBA players come from all walks of life, not all of them need to live in the big market city or the vacationable destinations. Fact is as much as Redick would like to stay in Orlando he might not be in Orlando's plans and going to MKE might be a good career move for him - he could make the money he wants and be featured as a starter for an up and coming team.

 

I take it you haven't traveled much. Milwaukee isn't a bad city, despite the harsh winters I would certainly prefer it over the hollow tourist trap that is Orlando.

 

I mean the quote "nobody wants to play in Milwaukee" is just stupid and I hear it thrown around all of the time. Do you think Oklahoma City is some amazing place to live? How about San Antonio? Memphis? I would say Milwaukee is on par with these cities as far as appeal to a young man. We won't be landing a Dwight Howard or keeping a Monta Ellis, but with the new CBA  there is no reason that we can't bring in meaningful talent that the city of Milwaukee will suit just fine.

[jtcooky]

Just saying "nobody wants to play in Milwaukee" to support your statement about Redick not wanting to play here is ignorant. I'm not sure how you can just assume that about someone you think you know because you see him play basketball a few hours every week on TV.

[Kevin]

heres how i know...nobody wants to play in milwaukee, i dont know if thats news to you where you need an article on it?

 

plus his and his family "love" orlando and he plans to re sign there despite them being horrible, im sure him and his family would love to trade that for 0 degree weather

 

So because you don't have an article, you post more unsubstantiated drivel? Seems appropriate coming from you.

 

Yeah, they "love" Orlando. But that doesn't mean a damn thing unless he's willing to take a massive pay cut to stay in Orlando. The Magic are so active in looking for trade offers for him because he isn't in their plans for the future. This isn't a contending team anymore; it's a team trying to rebuild. Redick does nothing for them.

[Kevin]

i actually read it somewhere i cant remember where though just so you guys know so you can seriously shut the no, you can't say that, you guys are a bunch of internet nerds

 

how about we play a little game, only way we dont make this trade happen is if we cant get him to stay so next week or whenever deadline is up, i will make sure to come back here and say i told you so to you idiots when the trade doesnt happen.

 

Can't find an article to prove his point, so he resorts to insults and swearing. How adorable. 

[justryod3]

Can't find an article to prove his point, so he resorts to insults and swearing. How adorable. 

i dont need an article wait for the deadline than you will all look like idiots